Boy, 15, testifies he had sex with godmother

Your comment in nonsensical. You are reading a story about a woman in trouble for having sex with a young boy. Hello??

And if you really DO feel it hasn't been treated seriously, look at your own feelings. Really examine them. Are you, like most men, thinking, in the back of your head, Yay f or him, he got some, when you hear a story about a boy with his teacher, etc.? Sadly, you probably ARE thinking that way. Men stand in the way of their own justice with those attitudes. Men are their own worst enemies.

They should be taken with the same seriousness and the same penalties.

This is disgusting!

The boy testified that his first sexual encounter with Lopez happened in her car when he was 11 or 12 years old and she was his sixth-grade teacher at Nestor.

“She would, like, fondle me,” the boy testified. “She pulled down my pants and asked me if I liked it.”

In Nevada, this would be a life sentence I believe

Men are their own worst enemies.

You should see the battles I fight myself, myself!

Maddad, I have read a few posts from you and a couple of others about abuse and molestation and I feel sad that you had to resort to a private discussion to prevent ignorant and rude people from making foolish comments that they know nothing about. I don't care if it is a young boy being molested by an older women, a young boy by an older man, a young girl by and older woman or man, or a child by another child...any way it is wrong and it is molestation. I am tired of people say "atta boy, good for him".

I empathize with your pain and feel that you and the individuals in your group discussions are brave and strong and do not deserve these comments. I wish you all well and I hope this boy is able to recover from the trauma that will most likely affect him for the rest of his life

thanks, there are not many but the ones there are are just over the top. your comment is appriciated.

Lola, It is actually a public group. We just like to have a little niche where we can weed out the trolls. I think we would all love it if you would join :)

Maddad I do truly appreciate the offer; however I would not want to intrude if it is only for survivors. I politely want to mention that I am not one myself, but I know of many and feel strongly in their favor.

You don't have to be a survivor of abuse. The name I really wanted was too long. I am the moderator of the group and would love for you to join :)

yes - they do - but just because they are going through puberty does not make this a sexual molestation case - what if it had been a 15 year old girl and a 33 year old man - would you be so complacent?

- what if it had been a 15 year old girl and a 33 year old man - would you be so complacent?

That's all together different.

That's all together different.

No it's not. Girls enjoy sex, too. In fact, being male, you can have absolutely NO clue as to how much a teenaged girl things about or craves sex. Girls are programmed to want to have babies, which means they are programmed to seek out sex, just like boys. Social mores have tried to quash that desire, but it's there.

So again, how is it different?

15 year old boys DO put their business into weird things for gratification (many jokes about that one); even if it's some crazy lady's hamper, ya know? Could have been worse, could have been a Catholic Priest......or Michael Jackson.

Saw the lady's pic: YUK, no wonder she victimized this kid; probably couldn't get a grown man to mow her lawn...yikes.

I'm with you. I'd have gone along for an occasional glass of water.

The part that makes this especially disturbing is the two-way manipulation that was going on. The young boy wanted beer, so he had sex. When threatened, the woman told the boy she'd kill himself and her son. This is the prototypical unhealthy relationship.

That being said - she is in a position of power and clearly at fault.

There are probably some 15 or 16 year olds that are able to make good decisions for themselves when it comes to sexual things. There are plenty of 25 or 26 year olds who can not. While I don't personally evaluate these cases based on age alone, in this case, it's clearly a factor.

actually, there was a poll done on this subject a couple months ago; the majority of us agreed that molestation is molestation, be it boy or girl.

boons, although I agree that the majority of females feel the need to have children, there are those out there that don't want any, so therefore not All females have that genetic biological clock in their chromosomes. And then there are those that some believe should never have kids...

Yes, but at least it was heterosexual, and apparently with the young man's consent.

Now, long after the fact, he decided he doesn't want it any more and cries foul. That's a lot of bull. It's like the girl who goes to bed with a guy, then changes her mind in the morning and says she's been raped. Gimme a break!

How is heterosexual molestation any better than homosexual? I was simply hit on by my father's former best friend (not former at the time) when I was *18* and I felt like I was being molested. I simply cannot imagine being put in the situation that this kid was put in.

When an authority figure tries to do something to you that you know is wrong there are several ways to handle it - all of them are wrong except for one. But the one right thing to do is the hardest and the adults who molest kids know that. And they use it to their advantage.

People like you make it easier for adults to exploit and abuse children.

Even if the kid wanted it all day - every day. How has this become your argument to: "this is a child - that woman is a molester - there is nothing funny or sane about this - it is wrong"

You could not be more wrong 2Tail. As a woman, I distinctly remember wanting to have sex all the time as a teenage girl. Teenage girls have just as much sexual feelings as teenage boys.

It is up to adults to not take advantage of these feelings. If this situation were reversed the guy would be called every name in the book.

It makes me sick that people think these "encounters" between young BOYS and adult WOMEN are a-ok.

who do you mean by self-righteous? - those that are opposed of adults taking advantage of children (be they boys or girls)? - or people that have suffered this abuse as children? are they the savage beast to which you refer? - or are you speaking of the monsters that molest our children?

Sorry nica, but you will have to make up your own mind on who are the self-righteous and who are the savage beast. In my opinion, when this subject comes up, we are all a little self-righteous and we are all savage beast. I would refer to it as the Human Condition. And no, I wouldn't support the sick people who molest our young children.

people that go through this abuse and come out the other side should just shut up then?

nica- I don't understand what you are saying. It sounds like you are saying - people who get abused should be quite and not say any thing.

people that go through this abuse and come out the other side should just shut up then?

you said that when the subject comes up people get self-righteous or become savage beasts - would you prefer that people that have been abused to just shut up? what to you may sound like self-righteousness may simply be pain and anger at their own situation - so should they just be quiet and not talk about so as not to appear self-righteous

This was my opening statement:

No comment here can calm the self-righteous or soothe the savage beast. Male or female.

You are twisting my words, I think, to fit your own agenda.

you said that when the subject comes up people get self-righteous or become savage beasts

Maybe we can chalk it off to Newsvine babble.

Or maybe you, Keith, can clarify your original statement. Why post it if you are just going to be obtuse? Makes no sense.

Apparently it is my mistake since I read from the top down. I made my original comment after reading comment # 4

group members please go to our group discussion, it is apparent this will not be worth while here.

I agree with Maddad's statement above, and I am sorry for saying this, or I probably will be, but I think you may be one of the self-rightous one's I was referring to.

TL very true right to the point.

so we are to condone older women abusing children - it began when he was what 11? - and he had in his mind at that time to use her - somehow i doubt it - anytime a person in authority abuses that power to abuse children then they are exerting control - regardless if the abuser is male or female - we should not protect boys from female predators because these women want an innocent and non-threatening child?

MTL Guy, there is probably some merit to what you said and believe, and as you say you are generalizing and this is all opinion. However I have a female acquaintance in her mid-thirties who chooses to date men in their early to mid-twenties (obviously nothing illegal) because she is able to dominate and intimidate them and holds power over them using her life experiences, sexual experiences and intellect to keep them below her.

I don't see this as being any different than an older man feeling powerful and intimidating over younger women. It is all about the individual person and believe me there are plenty of women that need to be in control and prove their power...this has nothing to do with my acquaintances heart but her desire to feel stronger and smarter. It is kind of pathetic to watch unfold.

MTL: in both scenarios you listed, you are speaking of a "May-December" relationship, which has nothing to do with ANY adult seeking a relationship with a child. There are a myriad of reasons consenting adults are attracted to one another.

I'll tell you the motivation for an adult to prey on a child: they are diseased individuals.

Agreed but men by nature are more sinister than women. I agree that it is wrong when this occurs, but in my opinion it is less severe when its a woman. look how many young women are abused and controlled by older men. its rare to hear of a man/boy in his late teens being beaten silly by his older girlfriend, or impregnated young and not allowed any chance to expeirience the world. Stuck in a kitchen , her relationships monitored.

I'm distressed because of the blatant sexism I read. Man or woman-it is wrong. Why are men the devil, but women are excused from doing this immoral act? Men should control themselves as should women. Sex is NOT an animal urge. If you have the urge to defecate at the curb like dogs, is it accepable? No. We, as civilized human beings are beyond that because of education by home and school. Yes, church is an option, but judging from many comments, I couldn't make that assumption because of the comments. Now you want to know-am I woman or man. I am a woman and I would never stoop to that low behavior any more than I would want my children to be exposed to it.

just because its a dream does not mean it should be allowed - or are you saying a 15 yr old boy is more mature than a 15 yr old girl (many studies would prove that false) - or are you saying that you would condone a 33 yr old man @!$%#ing a 15 yr old girl?

not everyone, at 15 i was active with my 15 yr old gf, who i later married and spent 15 yrs with. the one adult female, i was 14 she was a friend of my mom's and in her mid 30's, took me to bed after giving me booze and getting me drunk, then she threatened to call me a rapist if i told my mom and say i came to her when she was drunk, the parts i remember were not at all pleasant, i felt like an object. when i told my mom, she got angry with me and told me not to come around and visit her when her friend was there. at that time she had thrown me out i was living on the streets and she only let me stop by once in awhile for a shower and a meal.....don't need sympathy, i am 42 now and doing fairly well....just not "every 15 year old is interested in being manipulated or drugged into sex!

jcgo: please re-read the article. It involves a 15 year-old and his GODmother... not GRANDmother. She is not related to the boy by blood - she is a close family friend who was put in a position to mentor the families' children and be treated "like family."

This is not a story about molestation and incest, but one about molestation only.

what are ypu smoking? would you like it if a child of yours was sexually molested? I didn't enjoy it..... pediophilles, whether male or female should have the same amount of jail time; you do the crime, you do the time, how is it being bigotted? I am a female, as for being offensive, I find it offensive when any child is forced to have sex. Your statement is offensive and I am reporting it as so.

Would you ask the same questions if their sexes were reversed?